on t he admi s s ion of Indi ans to C o m m i s s i o ns in the B r i t i sh A r m y a nd to C o m m i s s i o ns in the R o y al N a v y

D a d a b h ai  t h en  s u b m i t t ed  t he  cor r e spondence  w h i c h  he  h ad
c a r r i ed  on  w i t h  the  W a r Of f i ce  a nd  the  A d m i r a l t y ,  r e spe c t ive ly,
on  t he  admi s s ion  of  Indi ans  to  C o m m i s s i o ns  in  the  B r i t i sh  A r m y
a nd  to  C o m m i s s i o ns  in  the  R o y al  N a v y .  T he gist  of  the  a r g u m e nt
in  this  cor r e spondence was  t h at  by  e x c l u d i ng  Indi ans  f r o m
C o m m i s s i o ns  in  t he  B r i t i sh  A r m y  a nd  N a v y the  a u t h o r i t i es  h ad
l a id  d o w n a  r u le  incons i s t ent  w i t h  the  A c t  of 1833  a nd  the
P r o c l a m a t i on  of 1858.  H is  n i n t h  a nd  f i n al  n o te  f u r n i s h ed a  t able
s h o w i ng  e x p e n d i t u re  on wa rs  b e y o nd the  I n d i an  f r o n t i e rs  a nd
c o n t a i n i n g,  so  to say,  t he  o f f i c i al confession  of  the cost  of  the
F o r w a rd  P o l i cy  to  t he  p e o p le  of  I n d i a.
D a d a b h ai was  n o t  c o n t e nt  w i t h  m e r e ly  p l a c i ng his statements
b e f o re the  C o m m i s s i o n.  T h e y  m i g h t  or  m i g h t  n o t  be  t a k en  i n t o

a c c o u nt  in  c o m p i l i n g  t he  r e p o r t.  I f ,  h o w e v e r ,  he appeared  b e f o re
t he  C o m m i s s i on  as a wi tne ss  a nd  u r g ed  t he issues raised  by  h i m  in
those notes,  t he  C o m m i s s i on  w o u l d ,  he  t h o u g h t,  be  c o m p e l l ed  to
de al  w i t h those issues.  In  t h at  h o pe  he  subj e c t ed  h i m s e l f  v o l u n -
t a r i ly  to  t he  f i re  of  c r o s s - e x a m i n a t i on  as a wi tne s s.
T h e re  w e re several passages-at-arms  b e t w e en  t he  C h a i r m an  a nd
t he wi t n e s s.  To  c i te  o ne  ins t anc e.
The Cha i rman asked:  " W h at  is  it that  y ou want? Do  y ou
wi sh to sweep away the wh o le Engl i sh scheme ?"
"Yes, as it  i s ," was Dadabhai's  r eply.
"I wa nt  to  k n ow whether  y ou wi sh  to get  r id  of  it  b o d i l y ?"
"The re  y ou misunderstand  m e ."
" W h at  p r o p o r t i on  w o u ld  y ou keep  ?"
"The re is no  p r o p o r t i on there.  Y o u must serve the double
purpose  b o th of ma int a ining the supremacy  in a  v e ry remarkable
and a  v e ry efficient mariner and at the same  t ime the people must
feel that they are governed by themselves."
"I me r e ly  w i sh  to ask  y ou whether  y ou propose  to retain any
part  of  C i v il Service—the European Service?"
" O n l y the highest  p o r t i on such as the Vi c e r o y, the Governors,
the Commande r - in-Chi e f. Let us have the wh o le  C i v il Service,
leaving alone the  h i gh level of the Europeans as the  c o n t r o l l i ng
p o w e r ."
" T h en  y ou  w o u ld have the Vi c e r o y, etc. ?"
"These  c e r t a inly."
" N o Englishmen beneath  them ?"
"I  do  n ot see any necessity  for others."
" A n d by degrees  y ou  w o u ld evict  t h em all  ?"
" We may  go gradually higher  u p ."
" B ut the hi s tory of  India is that the people have been  c o nt i n u a l ly slaughtering each  o t h e r ?"
" W h at have  y ou done here?  W h at  is the history of Europe?
We do  n ot  w a nt to go back, because we have learnt as  y o u
have  l e a rnt ."
"Is  y o ur recipe  for  r e v i v i ng the prosperity of  I n d ia to let loose
the Pindaris ?"

" N o t necessarily. Those days are gone.  . . . "
" Do  y ou remember wh at Sir Madhava Rao, Pr ime Mini s t er  of
Baroda, said to  L o rd Roberts on the subject of  India for the
Indians?"
" W h at  d id he say?"
" He said it  w o u ld be  l i ke loosing the bars of the cages of the
Z o o l o g i c al Gardens and  l e t t ing out the animals, that ve ry soon
they  w o u ld all be dead except the tiger—the tiger was, I believe,
the wa r - l i ke people  of  N o r t h e rn  I n d i a ."
"Is this the result of 150 years of  B r i t i sh rule that we are not
c ivi l i z ed enough to observe  l aw and  o r d e r ?"
It was,  on  t he  w h o l e, a  b r i l l i a nt  p e r f o r m a n c e.  T he  s e v e r i ty  of
t he  c r o s s - e x ami n a t i on gave  h i m  t he  o p p o r t u n i t y  of  d r i v i n g  h o me
a ll his  p o i n ts

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